Sample Sale-ing in Paris


Who got up early last Thursday to check out The Outnet's 1$/1£ birthday sale? Many of my friends and some fellow bloggers did - and the verdict was unanimous: it sucked. Of course since most people didn't end up with a purchase, it was to be expected.. But while I only logged on five times (a half hour late mind you) only to be greeted with a time out screen or 'we're sorry' messages and finally the actual homepage two hours later (by then the 'sold out' stickers were plastered on almost every item), I was still frustrated. I hadn't waited up the whole night nor set my heart on scoring anything, but this experience made me realize that as much as I adore online-shopping and the convenience or occasional great deals it comes with - when we're talking big sales, I might actually prefer the 'real life' version... this coming from someone who hates queues and crowds. And as fate had it, three hours later I ended up heading to two old-fashioned sample sales by Maison Martin Margiela and Givenchy - where the experience was so completely different to the online one, I felt like doing a comparison post.

the outnet birthday saleThe very frustrating apology screen that greeted customers on The Outnet's UK site during the birthday sale (above) and the dreaded pink 'sold out' stickers that popped up within seconds of entering the sale.

This isn't going to be a rant about The Outnet, because to be honest, we all know this event was more like a lottery that was meant to increase their PR and global brand recognition. But I can't help feeling that every time there is a great online sample sale, whether it's on Gilt or HauteLook... your chances of getting the item you want are based on pure luck, sometimes dependent on server speed and the retailer's bandwidth to name a few.

HauteLook Gilt GroupYesterday's Decades Two sale on HauteLook... 1 minute after logging on. The best stuff from Chloé or Bottega Veneta was already on hold.

This is how I've experienced the average 'coveted' online sample sale - i.e. the one that doesn't just sell junk or steak knives: you eagerly anticipate the start time of the sale by sitting in front of your computer and nervously clicking the refresh button every two seconds (make that one second if it's your favorite designer). The sale opens and you click to enter. Sometimes the server crashes or takes too long to load, in which case nervous refreshing is in order again. You're in the sale, find an item you love, put it in your shopping cart and check out (ideal situation). More often than not, you are greeted with 'sold out', 'on hold' stickers or depending on the retailer (Outnet and Yoox work this way sometimes), it's in your cart and you're told when checking out, that the item isn't available. In even worse cases, you've checked out and are informed days later the product is no longer in stock (Barneys and Harvey Nichols, I'm looking at you). Annoyingly enough, while online sales allow even those in the furthest corners of the world the possibility to shop great brands for cheap, going up against a global population of online shoppers means the competition is that much stiffer.

Gilt GroupGilt's Marc Jacobs handbag sale early this week. Five minutes after logging on, half the items were sold out.

Of course regular offline sample sales aren't necessarily better. In fact, nothing can evoke as much dread and excitement at the same time, as the mere mention of a sale. Think sample sales, and chances are these images will pop into your head:

Confessions of a Shopaholic sample saleAs demonstrated by Isla Fisher in 'Confessions of a Shopaholic' - sample sale mania, starting with the ridiculously long queues (top), crowds surging towards the entrance (middle) and grabbing random items you see (bottom).

To an extent, those images ring true. I once witnessed a woman literally throw herself on a table of Stella McCartney shoes during a sample sale in London, in order to secure her must-have item (I'm sure she almost broke a rib). I can't say I've seen women fight over dresses and bags, but I'm certain it happens (wedding sample sales are supposedly the worst). Generally there's a lot of queuing involved, you end up getting there well in advance to secure a spot, you wildly put anything remotely interesting in your shopping bag, strip down to your undies in the middle of the room to try stuff on and wait even longer at the cash desk.

Confessions of a Shopaholic sample saleThe fight scene: Isla Fisher aka Becky Bloomwood wrestling another shopper for a pair of Gucci boots.

However, I've found Parisian sample sales to be incredibly tame - with the exception of the Hermès bi-annual event which involves queuing for 4 hours and where eBay sellers with empty suitcases form half the line (thankfully I have never felt the need to go to this). Last year, I already posted about how refreshingly normal the seasonal sales in Paris are. Sample sales are pretty much the same. For both Margiela and Givenchy, I showed up on the first day of sales, one minute before doors were supposed to open. There were long queues but I only waited in line for 15 minutes. Once I got in, I was surprised by how empty the place looked, even though there were plenty of shoppers there. I started browsing - I was never pushed or shoved. Girls who wanted to browse my section of the clothes, would wait patiently until I was done. I tried on a few pieces, proceeded to the cash desk where I waited for another 10 minutes. I was in and out of each sale within an hour and it was probably the most relaxing shopping experience I could have had.

sample sale parisThe venue: ranging from grand and majestic at Fendi (left, please note the lack of queues) to a loft warehouse for Vanessa Bruno (right).

Queues can of course be more or less horrid - last year I waited for two hours to get into Maje (which is merely a high street brand) and waited one minute to get into Fendi, but the actual shopping experience has always been the same: fellow Parisians respect you and don't feel the need to push or snatch away a dress that's right in front of your nose. The staff is generally very helpful. Margiela SAs running around in white lab coats would tell me which season each item was from and were kind enough to double-check the prices of the pieces I was planning on buying (a black dress and a grey cardigan).

sample sale parisNeat and organized: racks of clothes during a Chloé sample sale (left) and the coveted Vanessa Bruno totes categorized by color (right).

The best thing about 'real' sample sales though? They're straightforward. You know that even if you're last in line, chances are, not everything will be sold out by the time you enter the venue. If you're first in line (or on time), you'll definitely get in. Show up on the second day and chances are you won't even have to queue. Once you're in, you won't see 'sold out' stickers on clothes you may have wanted. If you have something in your shopping cart... it's pretty much yours and no one else can take it away. You get to see the clothes, try them on (albeit in a very public setting) and most importantly... take your time deciding whether you want something or not. And when you've finally checked out... the item is definitely yours and you're spared the whole ordeal of credit card authorization or cancelled orders.

sample sale parisRacks of YSL goodies and Kris van Assche gowns at a multi-designer sample sale.

Best of all? There's always a camaraderie going on with fellow shoppers, both during the wait outside and while browsing or trying on clothes. The most fun I had during these two sales was seeing girls and guys try on the craziest Margiela pieces or watch them attempt to walk in even more outrageous studded Givenchy heels. It's nice to see someone stand in front of a mirror with a glow in her eyes after having found the perfect LBD or hear squeals of delight when a shopper finds a pair of strappy platforms in her size for 90% off.

sample sale parisThe Maison Martin Margiela sale I went to last week... taken 20 min after doors opened. Yes, it really was that spacious, with pieces dating back to 2007. The top floor catering to menswear (top right) and the relatively short queues at the cash desk (bottom right).

Am I saying online sales are worse? No, because I've scored great items both on- and offline. But I am saying that if you're lucky enough to have sample sales going on in your area and are terrified of the idea... to give them a chance. They're not all as bad as they're cut out to be. And if you're in Paris, depressed by the prices of designer goods but wanting to look as chic as most of the locals (who rarely pay full-price anyway), then definitely check them out. Despite being the fashion capital of the world filled with hardcore style addicts, Parisian shoppers are very well-behaved. The experience can be more fun than browsing overfilled department stores buzzing with tourists.

So what's your verdict on sample sales or sales in general? Online? Offline? Or would you rather spare yourself the stress and just shop at regular prices? Do tell!

57 comments:

  1. I've never ventured into an "offline" sample sale because I constantly hear horror stories about what happens at these events. I have tried them online with varying success. I find that I like to shop when I'm cool and collected. Something about these sample sales just create a heightened sense of urgency and I bet people leave with things that they're not really crazy about, but just felt the need to buy at the time. I find that I make smarter shopping decisions when I'm not under pressure to take advantage of the *sale*.

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  2. I love sales but never shop online. My heart gets so excited when I see a big red sign and I love that. I make smarter decisions when I see the clothes in person.

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  3. love this post. for me, both on and off, i just don't think i have the time and patience for them. oh, actually, it's mostly only cos i don't have the spare MONEY for such games. we have reebonz.com and i did once feel i've missed out and i still pined for the bag that got away. i don't want to go thru these if i can help it. there're just too many things that i'll miss anyway. i like to say things find me, not the other way around. cos the probability's really just as high (or low) for both situations.

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  4. My..Martin-Margiela-Sale
    Three words I always love to hear!
    Margiela is collectible, no matter what people may say...LOVE!
    xo

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  5. I adore sample sales in person but despise them online.

    Very well-researched post, darling!

    xoxox,
    CC

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  6. Lucky duck...Margiela sample sale...mmm...
    Did they have some nice shoes?
    Personally I'm horryfied by such events (it reminds me the Shopaholic movie as well ;)! As anyone else, I really love having some nice bargains, but if it's soooo stressful, I dont think I will!
    Btw, do you need to have some special invitation for YSL or Margiela sample sales?

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  7. I have to admit, I love the cutthroat nature of real sample sales. I love the competitive nature. Does that mean I have a problem? :)

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  8. In person...online is a waste of time in my opinion. We set our alarm for the outnet, because on Twitter we could see the emails hitting Europe and guessed the time...and it was about right, but the checkout process was a nightmare...HORRIBLE marketing/PR strategy for them for sure.

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  9. Too bad about the Outnet $1 sale. Sometimes I feel there are things that are just too good to be true.

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  10. It sucked it sucked it sucked, I agree :(
    too bad really since it was such an amazing idea !

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  11. I definitely agree about the online sample sales. I've never had any luck with those things!

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  12. kind of hard for me to comment on this as I struck lucky with the outnet timing.
    this is one of the best posts I've read on it though

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  13. Well, i think online sales are great if you are quick and you know exactly what you want. Regarding sample sales & sales in general - i think it depends where you go. As for me, i find shopping for sales at Liberty & Fenwick very pleasant. However, i really can't stand Selfridges or Harrods when they have sales.

    Re meeting up, i thought it's Friday and not tomorrow? x

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  14. See you on Friday. I look forward to seeing you!
    x

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  15. You absolutely crack me up!!!!! I love online sales because I get crazy busy. too busy to shop my self. If I love something though full price for sure. I worked for it- I earned it!

    Cristi
    http://thatsorad.blogspot.com
    www.bluebee.com

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  16. You couldn't have said it better: It sucked. Yes, I knew it was too good to be true, but after actually having managed to put a Missoni dress into my shopping bag, just to watch the site crash (again) was still frustrating.
    Generally I have to admit I don't really bother with sales - theoretically I want to buy at cheaper prices, but actually I rather shop when I need/want something and I also have a tendency to forget about the sales. Bad for the bank balance - good for my nerves...

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  17. Oh the online sale is so annoying sometimes. The same thing happening with me every time when I try to purchase H&M limited edition items online...the server is so busy I can't even log in. I love items on sale (in real life not online)...one time I purchased a designer coat in the middle of July for 15$...so I guess in some way it's pure luck :-)

    Cheers: Evi

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  18. What a nice revelation... if I ever decide to go to sample sales, Paris would definitely be it. I haven't experienced going to sample sales since we don't have that here in Manila but I've heard a lot about it. The prices are marked down so low that designer items are very affordable.

    About online shopping, I browse what I want and go to the store and try it on. I prefer trying on the clothes and shoes before I buy them. I hate returns. It is just a waste of time and effort. So I'd rather shop the old-fashion way.

    xoxo

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  19. That was brilliant! I give up on The Outnet, they blew it twice in just a few weeks and I've also experienced that frustration of never having access to the best pieces in an online sale. You probably don't go to Cocosa as they only ship within the UK but it has really gone to crap lately. It's mostly unknown, cheap lines on there, I haven't seen anything actually covetable in a while now.

    Ooh, I bet I missed some great sample sales while I lived in Paris. Do you know if any are happening while haute couture week is on in July? I'm so pleased to hear that French women are so civilised about these things, I would have thought so but it's nice to know that some people aren't prone to embarrassing or injuring themselves and others to get a designer bargain. I can't imagine witnessing that woman diving onto the Stella McCartney shoes! Have some dignity! Ha!

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  20. ahhh this sounds so amazing, I LOVE sales! & I'm very jealous that you get to visit all these amazing shops all over the world!

    I'm so, so sorry about the super late reply to your comment btw. I've been crazy busy!

    LONDON--ROSE.BLOGSPOT.COM

    xx

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  21. You are such a wealth of knowledge! I've actually never been to a real sample sale, but I fear I wouldn't be aggressive enough. I didn't even go near the Outnet $1 sale because it had disaster written all over it.

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  22. I guess I need to go to Paris. I was foolish enough to think I could score something at the Outnet sale. Ahhhhh, foolish naivete!

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  23. that's it...i'm moving to paris!!!

    like i said in my post a couple days ago, the outnet sale was WACK. gilt SUCKS! ideeli and hautelook aren't bad but still they take forever to ship.

    i've only been to a couple sample sales and those sucked too.

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  24. You know, i actually managed to log on to the outnet for the $1 sale but it was so slow, i just gave up!

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  25. Hi there-what a fabulous insight on both, I've not been to a 'real' one, it looks fascinating and interesting!!

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  26. I remember watching Shopaholic but for some reason, I didn't really like the main character. There's something I think is wrong about her.
    Nevertheless, nice post!

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  27. I've heard from so many people that the Outnet sale was a complete joke!!

    Merci beaucoup for stopping by darling =]

    Stay safe and chic ma chérie,
    English Rose x
    http://iamanenglishrose.blogspot.com

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  28. i do love sample sales but the crowds will put me off every time. i also realise that i buy stuff i don't need/want, so i'm pretty much off them - having said that though, those parisian sales sound like heaven!

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  29. Hmm well the outnet was quite disappointing, and I've never actually been to a sample sale. I don't live in any big city nor close enough to one to hear about them, but by the sounds of it they do seem better to me! Plus I've always like physically being in the presence of my purchases rather than seeing pictures online

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  30. Honestly, as much as I love a deal, sometimes sales are so nervewracking and full of frustration that I would rather just pay full price. After all, time is money, as well. :/

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  31. The images from the Shopaholic movie make me want to watch it again. I usually shop online or just at normal prices.

    -The Trendy Fashionista
    http://thetrendyfashionista.blogspot.com

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  32. oh! sample sale - the words sounds so darling to our ears, lol!!! but, what an interesting angle you brought here, comparing online experiences vs. on site - i think this is, again, one good example to bring online life next to real life .... maybe, it is the reason, though for long time i've been talking about online shopping, or have a shop online, it has never happened to me yet - maybe i 'm just really behind, but it seems, so far, being physically in a place and hands moving over the items while going through various scenario in my mind with the potential possibilities, just too good to let go ....

    xoxo

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  33. ha! this post is fabulous!

    i love on-line shopping. but the gilt, hautelook, rue la la on-line shopping experience is often times SCREAM INDUCING.

    i am shy to go to designer sales. i can't even make myself go into big beverly hills department stores like neiman marcus, sacks, barneys, etc., and certainly can't muster the courage to go to boutique designer shops in annoying beverly hills. i should just try it already. particularly if a sale is in progress!

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  34. Ahhhh ahahahahahah (ok, let me stop laughing first!) I do love a sample sale! I feel like online one are better because somehow they feel more relaxed.

    Much like Droll Girl I get super nervous about going into upscale stores. They are anxiety inducing. The women are always forcing clothing down my throat and before I know it I have left with a $300 slip dress on "sale" that i don't even want to wear. hahaha

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  35. LOL. I remember that scene so well! And I have been subjected to some online sales too, with the same level of frustration.

    You make sample sales sound so good. Great! Now I am craving for the sales season.

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  36. I read about this Outnet shopping experience in Mydailystyle and it wasn´t good either. Probably the internet is not ready for that kind of sales!! I am not very fond of sales in general. And as you say camaraderie is essential during sales season... otherwise, it is hard to bare.


    xoxo
    B* a la Moda

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  37. I'm not at all a sales gal. They just don't excite me. ...What a lame comment, huh!?

    Isla Fisher did such a great job in the movie. Loved every second of it.

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  38. Sadly, currently I'm not in a large city so offline sample sales are not something that happens often here. I like yoox because it's a constant sale which you can rummage while comfortably sitting on your couch. I'm so going sample saling once im in London!

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  39. omg that outnet sale last week made me craaaazy! i would really like to meet a person who ended up actually being able to purchase something!

    oh well, no use crying over spilt milk :'[
    but have a wonderful weekend miss :)

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  40. The run on the page was really amazing (only heard it), but the advantage there is that you really don't have to fight "physically" :)
    I still prefer "real" shopping, trying on stuff, etc... it is more fun to me
    *Nathalie

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  41. I rarely go to the sample sales in person and I would rather shop online. I can't handle the crowds and picking out stuff while someone else is shoving my back! I'm glad to hear that it's not insane to go shopping for sample sales in Paris though! I will definitely participate in if I were there! xoxoxoxoxoxo

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  42. Haha I like the photos from the film ' confessions of a shopaholic' !

    http://cupcakesarefashion.blogspot.com/

    XOXO, C.

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  43. Hello darling,

    Hope you are well. Me either, had no luck with the Outnet, I wasn't expecting much either but I got to log in, with a few dresses still on option but after that I just could do much, just saw they been sold as my pages could not refresh!

    This is a great post, not only a fab comparison but I have also really enjoyed your pics, from 'Confessions' to the Margiela sale. (OMG)

    Sales in London are very difficult, almost like confissions at times, there is no miss goody goody around here :-(

    See you soon.
    x

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  44. Totally agree with you on the online sales. A lot of them don't ship to Canada or the items are all sold out or reserved right away. I just can't believe though places like Barneys could let a transaction go through and then later say they don't have stock. Terrible customer service and marketing that is.

    We have the old navy shoe sale here which gets crazy. apparently people snatch things out of your basket. I can't deal with such large and pushy crowds plus there's just no ways i'd do that for a 10 dollar pair of shoes.

    ok i'm going to have to email you and pick your brain about paris, stockholm, copenhagen and amsterdam. booked some flights this week and will be doign some more planning soon.

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  45. This is such a fantactic post! I laughted out loud when reading about a lady thorwing herself on the table with Stella McCartney's items. I think I even scared my dog!:-))) What a dedictaion on that lady's part. :-) To tell you the truth, I am always scared of sample sales in New York because often it's a matter of being pushy and fast. I simply can not shop this way and love to take time when chosing my garment or shoes.:-) I have yet to experience a good sample sale, maybe even just for the fun of watching everybody else go crazy!:-))) WIshing you wonderful weekend and THANK YOU for bringing smile to my face.

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  46. Sample sales are amazing (in real life). I live in the suburbs near Toronto, and there is a mall of designer outlets not too far away. They are usually the venues to the sample sales that I go to which happen every year. People are, for the most part, polite and cordial, and the best part is is that you get to feel and try on what you are buying. I'm supposed to be going to a BCBG sample sale next week and I'm very excited!
    But I've had horrible experiences with online sample sales. The name of the website escapes me, but it was lousy service, and what I ordered wasn't in stock after a week waiting for a payment confirmation email. I generally shop more in stores then I do online, but I hate crowds so I go on weekday mornings or afternoons. Online shopping just doesn't give me the thrill it used to and it's annoying of the internet cuts out or the website doesn't load!
    I can't wait to come to Paris and check out not only sample sales, but sales of all kinds!
    ps, thanks for the awesome comment you left on my blog about skin lightening! :)

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  47. very interesting post, i only wish i lived somewhere that had good sample sales. i wonder if anyone at all managed to buy anything on the outnet sale.

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  48. People become savage at sample sales, at American Apparel in Londonn police had to come to break people up. Why are people fighting over AA? But the online way sounds much more dissapointing but safer.
    Libby
    http://fashionconfectionairy.weebly.com

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  49. Wonderful post and thank you for sharing.
    I have not been to a sample sale, but the idea sounds interesting.
    I too, do not like pushy people as they seem to turn into something wild and not really care about anybody but themselves.

    Have a wonderful week
    Hugs
    Carolyn

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  50. i really love this post dear
    hmm in singapore here there is not much sample sale going on, after season sale yes but sample season no
    and for online, not all web are available for outside usa / europe
    I have logged in to website like gilt or beyond the rack and it is true that some sale items are really fast tp be gone, furthermore their time zone is different with us so it's even harder
    my usual shopping is just go to the store and buy at normal price haha

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  51. It was lovely seeing you again on Friday. I was really naughty when you left me and i ended up buying so many beauty products instead of clothes (bad Anna!)
    I am looking forward to seeing your next post.

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  52. Sometimes the prices can be so much better on-line, however the shipping is not so good almost all the time...costum issues...

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  53. never experienced one and to be honest am a little afraid to at this point haha

    myglitteringcreation.blogspot.com

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  54. Just swinging by to say hi darling! xo

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  55. I didn't even hear of The Outnet sale, but it appears I didn't miss anything anyway. ;-)

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  56. I have never gone to in-person sample sales in the US or elsewhere but it is interesting to hear that there are some cultural differences to how people behave at them.

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  57. I absolutely LOVE this post! Gilt oh forget it. I didn't even hear about the Outnet sale until after. I've been ignoring all the Outnet emails I've received for the last few months. I've had quite a bit of luck with Hautelook but if have also had some bad luck with short shipments. Oh well, at least I get a refund and a $20 credit everytime I'm short shipped. I ended paying dirt for a fabulous leather cropped jacket I got because of a few items I got short shipped.
    I've done the offline things twice I think but I'm not so good with lines and always feel out of my element when people go nuts and grab and push...I tend to just stare with my mouth aghast, LOL.
    xo

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